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USA's new law- Guilty until proven Innocent? [22 Mar 2005|11:38pm]

So you've watch 'Law and Order' or another program that supports the American judicial system, but how true are the ideas behind these patriotic TV serials?

In the case of US asylum seekers, who are coming to find a land of freedom, it's certainly not. Over the past few years thousands of people who have come as asylum seekers and immigrants from Arab countries have been unfairly detained and forced into detention centres because they may be linked to "terrorism". Take the Hamoui family for example, who moved to USA as political asylum seekers, and in the middle of the night were taken away by the FBI, because they 'may' have links with Al'Qaeda, being Muslim and all...

These people are detained unfairly for months in solitary cells, with no communication with the outside world. There are no newspapers, no telephones, no TV, no nothing. They have no chance to come out of their rooms, and they certainly have no access to an impartial hearing. And they are your everyday American residents. What ever happened to 'freedom of religion', or civil rights?

Now we move on to the famous case of Guantanamo Bay. Everyone's heard of it, and yet USA is only doing it's bare minimum. The people there are suffering disgustingly. Not only do they have no rights, as they are neither protected by the American judicial system, nor the Geneva Convention, but they also have no access to any form of media, or communication. It's been two years since the War on Iraq, but yet only a few have had any form of hearing. Nobody but the US government knows how many people are there, what sort of treatment they are receiving, and whether they actually are "bad" or not.

There are children from the age of 12 to old men to the age of 80 and above. No evidence has been supplied as to whether they are innocent or not. Yes, some of them have been given trials, but it is important to remember that these are military trials, which means they are not impartial. Also they are judged on they basis that they are assumed guilty. As Bush put it himself, "I can assure you that these are bad people."

But if they are, why is he so scared to give them a fair trial? What allows him to judge the difference between 'good' and 'bad'?

The American Law has always been to judge someone on a fair basis, no matter their background, their colour, or their religion. Why is this not supplied to all those who the Government withhold? The Constitution clearly states that: "No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

That does not say "no citizen", it says "no person".

The length of detainment is forever. Rumsfeld claimed it was until every global Terrorist organisation was shut down, which basically means forever-because we all know that there will always be political terrorism. This means some people will be without a father,  a grandfather, a son, a brother, a nephew, etc, for a lifetime. And they may be innocent, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So I ask you, do you believe the treatment of these people, is fair? Is it right to treat any human like this? Whatever happened to "America: Land of the Free"?

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Arianna Huffington Lecture Part I [26 Oct 2004|07:29pm]

(I'm going to do these questions in separate posts, to make it easier to sort out the responses.)

Arianna Huffington spoke at my university this week, and one of the things she advocated was to stop answering pollsters when they call. Here's her reasoning:

- Only 30% of those called respond.

- Those who are likely to respond are also not necessarily representative of the general public.

- Politicians rely way too much on poll data to determine how they act.

Should we stop polling? What kinds of alternatives could we present? Is polling actually harming us by being potentially misleading?

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Arianna Huffington Lecture Part II [26 Oct 2004|07:23pm]

(I'm going to do these questions in separate posts, to make it easier to sort out the responses.)

Ms. Huffington another thing she said struck me. Her quote was, "I really believe that this election will be decided by those who vote their fears, and those who vote their hopes."

Do you think this is true? Why are people voting this time? What are your reasons for voting?

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[24 Oct 2004|05:49pm]


speak out! Join us for the Great Blogger Debate 2004 on Tuesday, October
26th from 6-9pm. Pre-registration required.

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To those helping us promote the site KerryOnIraqWar [15 Oct 2004|07:09pm]

I asked for help promoting this site on google and a lot of people kindly responded. Unfortunately, I just learned from a blog that google stopped reading the kinds of keywords we put into the code about 3 weeks ago. In other words, the search terms "Kerry Iraq war" that we put in are suddenly invisible to google. So I need to ask those who are helping, if you could be kind to us once more and add the words "Kerry on Iraq War: John Kerry's consistent position on the Iraq war" under or near the banner.

Kerry on Iraq War

Kerry On Iraq War: John Kerry's consistent position on the Iraq

Sorry to come back and ask for help a 2nd time; we researched google but didn't know things were changing just now. Thank you, everyone who's been helping us. For those who didn't see the first message, please take a look at the site and consider linking to us. The banner code is under the LJ-cut. I'll stop spamming now.
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[13 Oct 2004|03:19am]


This is a site with posters that you can print and hang up to help influence the vote.
The posters include the address to the site so people can get the posters themselves
and learn more information on the issues they address.
Help us change some minds and change our leadership.

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Bush did a great job! [08 Oct 2004|11:09pm]

[ mood | pleased ]

Kerry repeats lies, women scored Bush well during live-tracking.

Bush presented himself well (cracking jokes: bonus!) and Kerry looked haughty and appeared to be lecturing the voters instead of trying to appeal to them.

Kerry also revealed that he's going to use the "Clinton" approach to taxes and spending. Spend what he wants and blame Congress for "not giving Americans a tax cut...I tried as hard as I ever have on anything to get you one (bite lip, furrow brow)...".

Yeah, I trust someone who voted for higher taxes and against tax cuts for 20 years to suddenly govern as a middle class supply-sider!

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Can you help us googlebomb to support a pro-Kerry site? [08 Oct 2004|06:27pm]

We're working on raising the google ranking of http://www.kerryoniraqwar.com, a site designed to set the record straight about Kerry's consistent position on Iraq. If you can take a minute to paste our banner and key words on a webpage or in LJ User info, we'd really appreciate it (google ranks a site based on how many sites link to it and include its key search terms). We've already heard from undecided voters who say that now that they've seen the site and know the truth about what Kerry has been saying about Iraq, they'll vote for him, and from Dems and volunteers who are grateful to have it as a resource. It's clear the site is useful, and we want to make it easier to find.

Kerry on Iraq War

The truth about John Kerry's consistent position on the Iraq war. John Kerry hasn't been flip-flopping. George Bush just hasn't been listening.

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[05 Oct 2004|09:35am]

[ mood | accomplished ]

how do you feel about how Americans are forced to conform, or change to the immigrants living in our society...

EDIT: here is the essay where i got the idea, IMMIGRANTS NOT AMERICANS MUST ADAPT I am tired of this nation worrying about wethe we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attackshad barely sttled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do i holad a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of descendants of immigrants. However, there are few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being multicultural commuinity has serverd only to dilute our sovereignity and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyles. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have saught freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, or any other language. Therefore if you wish top become a part of outr society, LEARN THE LANGUAGE. "In God we Trust" is our national motto. This is not some christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then i suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is apart of our culture. If stars and stripes offend you, or you dont like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to chnage, and we really dont care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyl. Our first ammendment gives our citizens the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every oppurtunity to do so. But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about or flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one of another geat american freedom... The RIGHT TO LEAVE. *bows*

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lets debate over why were not debating anything [25 Sep 2004|05:23pm]

[ mood | confused ]

So what is everyones stance on illegal drug use such as marijuana? Do you think it should become legal? and so on..

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NRC in New York City [10 Sep 2004|07:39pm]

Do you think that it was ethical for the National Republican Convention to have been held in Manhattan? Conservatives say that doing this was a symbolic act of growth and patriotism. However, estimated security costs for the convention were about $76 million dollars. New York City public schools are starting late. Manhattan is known for being a liberal area and holding a convention in an area where democrats raise money asking “How would you like to help beat Bush?” is just asking for more trouble than their would typically be. Personally, I do not think that holding the convention in Manhattan was helpful in ‘getting the city back on its feet’.

It’s also interesting that here in Manhattan, where many were directly effected by the 9/11 attacks, it is rare to find a Bush supporter. The people I know who were actually in the attacks feel that he is the worst candidate in the election.

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In defense of veganism. [10 Sep 2004|12:14am]

Pigs, cows, and chickens are individuals with feelings - they experience love, happiness, loneliness, and fear, just as dogs, cats, and people do.

Animals crammed by the thousands into factory "farms" today can do almost nothing that is natural to them - they are never able to feel the grass beneath their feet, the sun on their faces, or fresh air. Chickens have their beaks sliced off with a hot blade, pigs have their tails chopped off and their teeth cut out with pliers, and male cows and pigs are castrated - all without anesthetics. The animals are fed a steady diet of hormones and antibiotics so that they grow too quickly: their hearts and limbs often cannot keep up, causing lameness and heart attacks. At the slaughterhouse, they are hung upside-down and bled to death, sometimes while fully conscious.

Fish, like all animals, feel pain. Hauled from the deep, fish experience an excruciatingly painful decompression followed by a slow, distressing death by suffocation.

Eatin meat is harmful to our own health because it is packed with fat, cholesterol, and various drugs and dioxins, which collect in the flesh and fat of the animals who are being eaten. People who consume animal products are far more susceptible to heart disease, 40 percent more susceptible to cancer, about 10 times as likely to be obese, and at increased risk for many other illnesses, including stroke, appendicitis, osteoporosis, arthritis, diabetes, impotence, dementia, and food poisoning.

Go Vegan For Life.

757 622 PETA - PETA.ORG

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Newsweek poll: 11 point lead for Bush! [04 Sep 2004|01:01pm]

[ mood | jubilant ]

Those polled on Friday gave President Bush an incredible 16 point lead!

Other (vol.)
9/3 only543844
9/2 only494335
Newsweek Poll via PollingReport.com

Time +11, Newsweek +11...it's not just a bounce, it's a giant leap for mankind!

Four more years!

Question: is it sustainable? How much of the bounce will survive through next week?

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[23 Aug 2004|06:00pm]

[ mood | cranky ]

why don't we just have a debate on religion? everyones kinda edged around it but...never really debated it. so here we go....

What is your opinion on religion? more specifically Christianity

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[20 Aug 2004|01:52pm]

Note: This is justplainnicole. New livejournal.

I was watching the Olympics, and I noticed much of the signs there are written in English. Even the sign for the Chinese to congregate under (It said China, you know..) was written in English. This bothered me. I'm assuming all the English is for the American viewers, and the massive amount of Americans in Athens. It bothered me. Why is an international event adjusting to English speakers-- or mainly Americans? I'm more than sure that English is the most spoken language throughout the world. Then, when you think about it, most of the world is adjusting to American culture. We've got our fast food chains, our clothing lines, our companies in general all over the world. I did some research last year on globalization and the spread of American culture, capitalism, etc.

What's your opinion?

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A curious question [20 Aug 2004|10:30am]

I've been reading all the gay marriage posts below, and find that the only reason people don't support it (or rather, homosexuality in general) is by stipulation of their religious beliefs. I'm unsure of what the stance is of other religions, but in the Christian Bible, I recall reading in Leviticus, in a moral code of conduct, "thou shall not lie with a man as he lies with a woman.." (I'm paraphrasing here...) But in that exact same code, it also says that you shouldn't wear clothes made with more than one type of thread, or plant more than one type of crop in a field. So if you don't like homosexuals, don't wear stretch jeans either, am I right? So here comes my curiosity: Why is it OK to pull out one part of the Bible, take it literally, and use it to hate a group of people? Sorry if that was broad, but I've always wanted to hear the rationalization of this from some people. OK, now you may attack me as you wish....

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[17 Aug 2004|08:47pm]

Subject: Resume of George W. Bush

Resume of George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520


Law Enforcement:

- I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days.

-My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is unavailable.


- Joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL for one year.

- Refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use.

- By joining the Texas Air Nation guard I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.


- Graduated from Yale University with a low C average.

- I was a cheerleader.


- I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

- Began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1976. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all of my stock.

- Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

- With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.


- I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

- During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

- I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

- I set the record for most executions by any governor in American history.

- With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.


- I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

- I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

- I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. treasury.

- I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

- I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12- month period.

- I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

- I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
U.S. stock market.

- In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs
and that trend continues every month.

- I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire", Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

- I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S.

- I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder for receiving the most
corporate campaign donations.

- My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends,
Ken Lay,presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S.
history, Enron.

- My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election

- I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution. In fact, more money and time was spent
investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent
investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

- I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused
to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

- I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

- I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
government contracts.

- I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any
other President.

- I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy
in the history of the United States government.

- I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.

- I am the first president to have the United Nations remove the U.S.
from the Human Rights Commission.

- I Refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war"
detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

- I am the first President to refuse United Nations election inspectors
(during the 2002 election.)

- I set the record for fewest numbers of press conference of any
President since the advent of television.

- I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period. In fact,it was after I had taken off the entire month of
August 2001 that I presided over the worst security failure in U.S.

- I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade
Center attacks and less than one year later made the U.S. the most
hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world

- I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for protests against
any person in the history of mankind.

- I am the first president in U. S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack
and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the
United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens and the world community.

- I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits
for active duty troops and their families in wartime.

- In my State of the Union Address I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and
have since blamed the "misinformation" on our British friends.

- I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my
Presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

- I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster", a WMD.

- I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bid Laden to justice.


- All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library,
sealed and unavailable for public view.

- All records of SEC investigators into my insider trading and my bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

- All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended
regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for
public view.


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